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czincz · Apr 06, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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This is the build i just put for test, it allows you to spam heal party on recharge with only downtime being the 4 second blackout on non signet skills after using keystone.

With 16 inspiration that downtime is 4 seconds, you gain 21 energy from ether signet if your energy is below 10 and mantra of inscriptions gives you 94 second duration and 52% boost on keystone recharge.

Means = u can use keystone every 11 seconds and every 12 seconds you get 21 energy from ether signet. 21!!!!!!!

What are your thoughts about potential uses (and abuses) of this combination?

Helcaraxe · Apr 06, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06

it seems there are too many skills on the bar that are there simply to make one other skill work properly

czincz · Apr 07, 2007, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by Helcaraxe

it seems there are too many skills on the bar that are there simply to make one other skill work properly

work properly?

1. Heal party isn't mean to be spammed on recharge ffs, it's not a "proper" way to use it.

2. Infinite energy at the cost of your elite and 2 other skills is pretty good imho, especiallly if you get 4 pips anyway ...

3. Learn to play

Helcaraxe · Apr 07, 2007, 12:21 AM // 00:21

oh noes... thanks for the flame man! I really appreciate being called an idiot, especially when I simply did as you asked and gave you my thoughts. Or did you just want everyone to agree with you?

You have 3 skills there just for energy... let's face it, keystone signet is a worthless elite, and waste of a skill slot even if it wasnt elite.

moko · Apr 07, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

can you post all skills and attributes? i would prefer to not log in and type in the code or whatever. :<

i know its a bit more work but makes it more friendly for people that arent logged in to check.

czincz · Apr 07, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by Helcaraxe

I really appreciate being called an idiot

np, i think you get it all the time

the skills are:

mantra of inscriptions
ether signet
keystone signet

with lvl 16 inspiration

Avarre · Apr 07, 2007, 02:53 AM // 02:53

Keystone signet bonder is the only logical use of the skill, as far as I'm concerned.

Long live keystone bonders!

ArKaiN · Apr 07, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34

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Originally Posted by czincz

np, i think you get it all the time

the skills are:

mantra of inscriptions
ether signet
keystone signet

with lvl 16 inspiration

way to be a complete butthole.
If you don't want people to comment, then you should write your build on a piece of paper, tape it to your bedroom's wall, and just go "yeah, way to go, me" when you walk past it.
retard.

Osi Ri S · Apr 07, 2007, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Like Helcaraxe said, too many skills dedicated to keeping energy. Also there are much better ways to keep energy... You Fail

Also try not to be an assh*le next time KTHXBAI

martialis · Apr 07, 2007, 05:24 AM // 05:24

Elementalists and ritualists can spam heal party with only 1 other skill, which isn't in inspiration. Happy.

and yeah

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Also try not to be an assh*le next time KTHXBAI

There is a Me/D RA healer build by arrendondo around here somewhere. I wish I could find it for you, because it is brilliant and everything this ought to be. Also there was a signet nuker build on guildwiki which was silly but cool, and I can't find it either. It used Keystone signet and mantra of signets to spam 5 other signets 3 times consecutively.

Now that we've established that spamming heal party this way is awkward and a waste of time, what should you be doing instead with Keystone Signet? You have a huge amount of wasted potential. You can spam any signet you want and you have lots of energy. Look at some of the signets you have available, and some of the high-cost skills that mesmers rarely use....I don't know what the perfect build is, but any good build that you use Keystone signet in has to be brilliant and original, nothing as pedestrian as spamming Heal Party. (Bonding is pretty lame, too.)

Maybe you can work on that in the near future...

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suck the sweat from my crack. I asked for input, not feedback.

No room

czincz · Apr 07, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

I'm not saying ZOMG THE NEXT IMBA CRAP11111111!!!!!!!!one. But it looks good on paper, you dont really need mantra of inscriptions, and on 10 inspiration the energy gain is still almost twice of that from mantra of recall, on demand, without any initial investment with 20 second recharge.

It's an OPTION. Option for heavy energy task, and I'm just wondering what can it be used for. I don't know, maybe domination mesmer with deep freeze sig of weariness? Help me out.

Also, If any of you don't like my attitude towards people that write posts like: "This sucks coz it does not let me kill my pve mobs in one shot, you fail", well, just suck the sweat from my crack. I asked for input, not feedback.

EDIT: I just realized that its not worth with lower inspiration since of the keystone blackout ... sorry for not including that in original post

NinjaKai · Apr 07, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47

A build consists of 8 skills. This is more like the stub of a build. Why not actually post a build rather than a simple concept.

I really am wondering why you even posted this.

ArKaiN · Apr 07, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by czincz

I'm not saying ZOMG THE NEXT IMBA CRAP11111111!!!!!!!!one. But it looks good on paper, you dont really need mantra of inscriptions, and on 10 inspiration the energy gain is still almost twice of that from mantra of recall, on demand, without any initial investment with 20 second recharge.

It's an OPTION. Option for heavy energy task, and I'm just wondering what can it be used for. I don't know, maybe domination mesmer with deep freeze sig of weariness? Help me out.

Also, If any of you don't like my attitude towards people that write posts like: "This sucks coz it does not let me kill my pve mobs in one shot, you fail", well, just suck the sweat from my crack. I asked for input, not feedback.

EDIT: I just realized that its not worth with lower inspiration since of the keystone blackout ... sorry for not including that in original post

Here's some imput: Get therapy, and quit these forums forever.

czincz · Apr 07, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20

@arkain

Being impolite to people who can't contribute makes them rage over a thread and post, which makes other people notice a thread. It ups the chance of people who actually can contribute to constructive discussion show up and help.

It does not makes me popular, but it helps me actually gather input from people of knowledge and reasoning I respect and seek.

BTW: Mesmer is a class directed at manipulation and using your enemy reactions to acomplish your team goals and this is the mesmer forums

ArKaiN · Apr 07, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by czincz

@arkain

Being impolite to people who can't contribute makes them rage over a thread and post, which makes other people notice a thread. It ups the chance of people who actually can contribute to constructive discussion show up and help.

It does not makes me popular, but it helps me actually gather input from people of knowledge and reasoning I respect and seek.

BTW: Mesmer is a class directed at manipulation and using your enemy reactions to acomplish your team goals and this is the mesmer forums

It also makes everyone less likely to even consider your build, and mainly pay attention to how rude you're being towards people for no good reason.

On the cute "rpg" note: If you're playing D&D with friends and you steal money from someone's wallet while they're looking away, it's not "ok because you're a Thief". It's just being a complete a-hole. Don't try to rationalize it, just apologize.